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Liver Shunt - This is why it is important to test every single puppy.

1/3/2023

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​Troy Pitzenberger
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I have been talking to this woman for a few months. She is rightly devastated and angry with the horrible puppymill type breeder that unnecessarily sold her a sick puppy. If he had simply done a liver shunt test before placing his puppies, this painful decision would not have been thrust on the new owner. That would have required that he keep his puppies for three or four more weeks. That would have cut into his profit, and that was his only concern. This breeder is a member of the puppymill front group, National Irish Wolfhound Association. I have been ranting for a few years about the damage this group is doing to our breed. This is exactly why.

 Analee Gold12h  · 
June 5th, I took ownership of an (almost) 8 week old male Irish Wolfhound puppy whom I purchased from Bill and Noel Donahue; AKA Mactire Irish Wolfhounds in CA. He was welped 4/12/22. His Sire was Ri-Mactire and Dam was Mo Chroi Mactire.
This was Mo Chroi’s 4th litter, and 3rd using this stud, almost back to back between the years of 2019-2022, totaling 24 offspring (although only 15 are documented).
There were originally 6 dogs in the litter born 4/12/22, although 1 male “failed to thrive” and died within the first week of being born, leaving 3 males and 2 females in the litter.
At 15 weeks of age, after an emergency hospital visit, a liver bile acid test, an ultrasound, followed by a portal scintigraphy, as well as a full CT, my puppy was definitively diagnosed with a congenital intrahepatic portocaval liver shunt.
Prior to picking up the puppy, Mr. Donahue insisted a liver shunt test was not necessary. He also made his stance clear through posts on Facebook and his website, https://www.mactireirishwolfhounds.com
I immediately notified Mr. Donahue and forwarded all medical summaries, reports and test results.
My focus then shifted to informing the other people involved or that could be affected by my puppy’s medical history.
I was able to connect with the new owners of the other 2 males of the litter to tell them about my hound’s diagnosis, specifically and urgently, because I had seen both of the other owners posts about their desire and discussions with Mr. Donahue about wanting to breed their dogs at least once for a “personal puppy in future” (which they later also confirmed directly with me via texts and over the phone).
I was heartbroken to learn that the other two males also had serious, and potentially genetic and/or fatal health concerns, specifically cryptorchidism and Mega Esophagus. They notified Mr. Donahue and received no support. I don't know who owns the 2 females, but hope they have been made aware of the issues with this litter.
Later on, I also contacted the individual who bred Ri-Mactire and owns his father, (New Yorker “Prince” Ionmhain Norman) and mother (Nunneleys Queen Zury of Berry Hill), voicing my deep concern because of the shared bloodlines between multiple dogs at that point I had been able to trace.
On 9/11/22, at only 21 weeks old, I had to make the impossible and heartbreaking decision to have my sweet “heart hound” euthanized due to his shunt.
I am not looking to place blame or point fingers at this point. To be honest, the sheer emotional exhaustion and heartbreak that I have experienced through this journey, has left me feeling completely defeated. That has been compounded by the lack of transparency, and utter disregard from a large portion of a community (particularly my puppy’s breeder) that I blindly trusted and believed to be ultimately motivated by what is in the best interest of their dogs and the breed itself.
I am also aware that I contributed to this situation. I take full responsibility for lacking and falling short in knowing the right questions to ask, what health tests and certificates that needed to be produced and of simply not doing a better job of due diligence in so many other areas as a first time purebred IW owner and dog purchaser in general.
This was not something I went into blindly or impulsively. However, being someone who has worked in animal welfare over a large portion of my adult life, I did naively trust and assume that it is always the dog’s health, happiness and well-being that is the priority and of the most importance.
I am not looking to engage in any kind of social media war, or intentionally or maliciously hurt anyone in any way.
I want to share my experience.
I felt and still feel strongly, that everyone has a right to know any potential risks and factors that could influence and effect decisions made in the future, especially when owners have the intention of breeding IN ANY CAPACITY.
I feel the responsibility and want to share whatever information I can that I believe is potentially pertinent in keeping this magnificent breed healthy and thriving in the future.
There shouldn’t have to be a cruel or heartbreaking “learning curve” to navigate this journey in order to end up with a healthy and well bred dog.
My dog was never registered with the AKC or the reason for his death recorded. In fact, (up until after my pup had crossed the Rainbow Bridge) most of his pedigree or any health tests associated with his lineage were not recorded, either with the AKC or the IWHB. Due to the lack of and difficulty in having my dog’s history documented, I have chosen to make this post.
I TRULY believe we can only do the best we can with what we know at the time. But I also believe even MORE so, that knowledge can help us do BETTER. And good God, do we all need to do better.
The irony is that I have not had any contact with the breeder that produced my puppy since September and he has since moved out of state. They disappeared off social media (or blocked me) and their original website has been taken down.
However, a new Mactire Irish Wolfhound website has recently reemerged, https://mactireirishwolfhounds.square.site
where liver shunt (or any other health) testing is not addressed or mentioned at all but has been replaced with the following paragraph.
“It is only through careful, selective breeding that any breed is improved. With your help we can prevent dogs with health problems from breeding and breed only solid genetics, improving the breed.”
So, yeah. Let’s do that.
Finally, thank you to the people in this community and the IW groups who HAVE been a source of support and comfort to me, as well as mentors. I am truly grateful for you.
If anyone has any questions or would like to talk to me regarding this situation or anything else, please feel free to PM me directly.
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October 28th, 2021

10/28/2021

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How much for that puppy?

7/24/2021

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​ “Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters” – Albert Einstein


 Post from the Quality Irish Wolfhound Puppies Facebook Group written by: Troy Pitzenberger
 
How much for that puppy?
 Quality Irish Wolfhound Puppies | Facebook
 
 On this page we have discussed how to bring up price with a potential breeder. Their answer can be used to assess their motivation for breeding if we dig a little deeper into this topic.
The average price of a purposefully bred puppy from a quality driven breeder will be between $2500 and $3000. That will cover nearly every single good breeder. Here is where it can get a little tricky. There are several profit driven commercial puppy farmers that charge the exact same price. I know three commercial breeders that charge $3000 for a limited registration puppy. That is with a five minute search of their websites. If I researched a little further, I am sure I could find several that charge in the exact same range as the quality breeder.
This is lesson number one, the price of a puppy is not a meaningful indicator of the quality. These breeders cut many corners in order to maximize the profit derived from this price. They do not do all (sometimes none) of the testing required to minimize the potential problems a puppy may have. Once they get your money, they will cease to care about you and your new puppy. Some of them will say that they will be there for you for the life of the dog. That is only in good times. If your puppy has a problem, watch them quickly change their tune. They let their puppies go before ten weeks. Each day they keep a puppy past eight weeks cuts into their profits. Once those puppies are weaned, they will start counting the days until they can get them out the door. Puppies eat and poop in large volumes. That costs money and time. Some of them will have another litter that is already born and they need to move the older ones out so they can concentrate on the next batch of little money makers. It is a livestock operation to them.
If a breeder sells their puppies for less than the average, they are most likely just trying to undercut their puppymill competition. These breeders will be cutting every corner possible in order to turn a profit. When done the right way, Irish Wolfhounds are expensive to breed. When costs are minimized to maximize profit, the real cost to the buyer can be devastating, both financially and emotionally. If you think the up front cost of a puppy is high, you should see the vet bills for taking care of a sick puppy.
So you find a breeder that is selling puppies for $3000. How do you know if they are breeding for profit, or to preserve the breed? The quickest way will be to ask them what the price is for a full registration puppy. A full registration puppy is one that can be shown and bred with the blessings of the AKC. The quality breeder charges the exact same price for a puppy with full registration as they do for one with limited registration. We do so because It does not cost one cent more to raise the full registration puppy. Not one cent. The difference will be that a quality driven breeder will not sell a puppy that can be bred to anyone they don't trust, and that trust takes time. The profit breeder charges more for full registration and they will be happy to sell that puppy to anyone that can pay the extra fee. In other words, if a breeder charges extra for full registration, they are a poor breeder and profit is their motivation.
Let's say you are an aspiring backyard breeder, how do you get your breeding stock? Or, you just want a show puppy and you don't want to wait for one from a good breeder. Here is where things get full blown crazy. I have seen the price for full registration puppies from three different commercial kennels. Cindy Nunneley Biehler, of Midwest Irish Wolfhounds Ranch, charges $5800 for a puppy that can be shown and bred. Ronda Gibbons, of Sunny Slope Hounds, charges $5500 for a puppy that costs no more to raise than her $3000 puppies. Linda Spade, of Spade Ranch Irish Wolfhounds charges $4500 for her full registration puppies. These are outrageous prices for puppies that are produced by cutting many corners. I can't know for sure why they think they can get away with this type of gouging, but I can speculate. It is hard to get a puppy on full registration from a quality breeder. They have to trust your motivations and sincerity to a level that calms their fear that one of their dogs will end up in the hands of an unscrupulous breeder. That is something that keeps good breeders awake at night. The thought of one of our beloved puppies being exploited for money, makes us physically ill. The exploitative profit breeder knows how true this is. They have the backyard breeder over a barrel. There are several advantages to having championship titles behind your new breeding dog. Even if the titles are meaningless and achieved by purchasing them through the use of a professional handler, the backyard breeder wants these advantages, and they have to pay dearly for them.
The bottom line is that the price of a puppy has no direct link to the quality. Quality is about what the breeder puts into the puppy, not the money that the breeder gets out of it.
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Boondocks Integrity Blog

4/14/2021

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​Boondocks Irish Wolfhounds Blog
April 14, 2021
DNA
 
It is my belief that every litter should be required to have the Sire and Dam DNA prior to breeding and once born all of the resulting offspring should be DNA and sent to AKC prior to registration.
 
Why you may ask?
 
To keep high volume for profit only kennels from cheating unsuspecting buyers. If the Buyer believes they are purchasing a puppy from Sire A, that puppy should actually be sired by Sire A.
 
I have 3 individuals who have contacted me with concerns about the puppy they purchased not being sired by who the breeder said they were. I also have a statement from same breeder that she throws the males in with her females in season and decides by coat color who sired who.
 
Parentage confirmation should be required when applying for litter registration.  
 
DNA profiles provide several functions, including positive identification, accurate pedigree tracing and of course the confirmation of parentage.
 
The AKC does offer DNA profiles that creates and records the genetic ID of dogs. It is a voluntary program that I believe adds value to breeders by way of elimination of concerns and questions about parentage.
 
Anyone can contact AKC for a DNA kit. The kit is simple and just requires a swab to collect loose cells.
 
AKC offers voluntary and mandatory programs to ensure the integrity of their registry. Mandatory programs: Frequently Used Sires, Fresh Entended/Frozen Semen, Multiple Sired Litter Registration Policy, Import Breeding Stock requirement, Kennel Inspections/Compliance Audit Program.
Voluntary program: DNA Profiling
 
AKC has built the largest database of DNA profiles for parentage identification and genetic identity purposes. To include the DNA profiling as a mandatory program only makes sense.
 
I have profiled all my dogs and the puppies I keep from each litter are DNA. All my dogs have a clear confirmation of parentage. 
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